Pay to Win is a circumstance in pc gaming (normally MMOs or Enormously Multiplayer Online video games) where business permit you to get things or benefits with genuine cash that can not be gotten usually by playing the video game. An exemption to the policy is that if an item/advantage can be acquired in-game however the procurement time is unreasonably long, that can likewise be taken into consideration Pay to Win.



You can be ensured they will certainly expand the system by one more 50 or 100 degrees and also even more rock ports, as well as one more rate of rocks to maintain them paying ..., sorry i indicate farming.



ok i need to discuss it much more gradually: picture each and every single gamer has the ability to run every little thing and also still has some open places in the group. think what? there is no solitary gamer left that is buyi



Nagisa there are minimal areas in positions and also not everybody will certainly obtain that high at once fast sufficient, specifically if they'' re a brand-new gamer. You just require to consider unity system to


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Pay to Win is a circumstance in video gaming (normally MMOs or Greatly Multiplayer Online video games) where firms enable you to get products or benefits with actual cash that can not be gotten usually by playing the video game. An exemption to the guideline is that if an item/advantage can be acquired in-game yet the purchase time is unreasonably long, that can additionally be taken into consideration Pay to Win.


the only point that could take unreasonably lengthy is stired up epic unity rocks. Then i concur. There"s absolutely nothing else that takes" unreasonably long. Like i claimed contrast Korea"s bns and also EU/NA"s bns and also inform me once more that it"s p2w. It"s actually not.



the only point that may take unreasonably lengthy is stired up famous unity rocks. Then i concur. There"s absolutely nothing else that takes" unreasonably long. Like i claimed contrast Korea"s bns as well as EU/NA"s bns and also inform me once again that it"s p2w. It"s actually not.


ofcourse pre was much better that"s evident. yet this still is not p2w. at many it"s pay 2 progression. Chest doesn"t provide anything u can"t ranch besides clothing. exact same with RNG boxes.


ofcourse pre was much better that"s apparent. however this still is not p2w. at a lot of it"s pay 2 development. Chest doesn"t provide anything u can"t ranch besides attire. very same with RNG boxes.


There is no indicate begin the video game with words. You obtain power if you pay. As well as i do not truly care what some ppl can accomplish in their endless leisure time. They are still a little minority as well as never ever ought to be a base for any type of declaration. Its like somebody finished a marathon under 2 hrs, so every person can do it from currently.

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And also like lots various other gamers claimed: it is P2W.

All of us play in EU/NA so we evaluate regarding our area. As well as even if KR is extra p2w (in your viewpoint) doesn"t make EU/NA area "not P2W".

Why is it that hard for you to approve the truth that individuals have greater than your (old) meaning of P2W?


I offered you ONE instance, yet you just neglected it: Stir up Rising Rock. SAME with boxes from F10 currently.


u"re playing an MMO an Oriental one aswell u will certainly anticipate to run a pair marathons. You are bound to require a great deal of time to obtain near to max equipment. If u do not have time is that the video games mistake? That"s a reason that there"s pay to advance in this video game. A great deal of individuals function. fine u wear"t have time? we offer u the choice to pay cash so u can still appreciate this video game. once more its an Oriental MMO what can u anticipate. If u do not have them time wear"t play. If u intend to wear yet play"t have time. U have an alternative to pay. As well as also then doing ur dailies and also weeklies when u can as well as a pair dungs a week doesn"t take that much.

U individuals imitating it takes ages to obtain Semi-Max equipment like i claimed which is sufficient to do anything in this video game.


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2 mins earlier, CrazyDude90 stated:

All of us play in EU/NA so we evaluate concerning our area. As well as even if KR is a lot more p2w (in your point of view) doesn"t make EU/NA area "not P2W".


I never ever stated that was my disagreement. I simply claimed. Check out Korea and also call EU/NA p2w once more.


3 mins back, CrazyDude90 stated:

Why is it that hard for you to approve the truth that individuals have greater than your (old) meaning of P2W?


it is essentially not, old or brand-new interpretation of it.

and also why is it tough for you to approve the distinction in between u people"s point of view of the moment that it requires to reach Semi-Max equipment. as well as mine. I assume i have adequate experience on duty in any type of type of means to understand if it"s undoable or otherwise and also to be extremely sincere i virtually never ever do pve as well as i am still able to draw numerous DPS as well as have a large effect in 6v6.


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51 mins back, Nagisa Yuki stated:

the only point that may take unreasonably lengthy is stired up famous unity rocks. Then i concur. There"s absolutely nothing else that takes" unreasonably long. Like i claimed contrast Korea"s bns as well as EU/NA"s bns as well as inform me once again that it"s p2w. It"s truly not.


provided you ONE instance, however you just neglected it: Stir up Rising Rock. SAME with boxes from F10 currently.


i resolved it below. Perhaps check out initially prior to u talk about something.


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vor 6 Minuten schrieb Nagisa Yuki:

U people imitating it takes ages to obtain Semi-Max equipment


vor 4 Minuten schrieb Nagisa Yuki:

and also why is it difficult for you to approve the distinction in between u people"s point of view of the moment that it requires to reach Semi-Max equipment. and also mine


excellent that i discussed max equipment and also not semi-max equipment like you. ^ ^

Every "typical" gamer intend to get to max equipment as well as this ought to be feasible in a sensible as well as appropriate time imo.

Why should you wish to get to 80% when you can get to much more?

Several gamers in MMORPG"s wish to get to much more. And also thats great. Due to the fact that it is an MMO as well as its regular that individuals intend to get to max equipment.

Yet in B&S NCWe$t/NC$oft made several components of the video game harder intentionally. A whole lot individuals quit at your called "semi max" equipment due to the fact that the remainder is "unreasonably" long.


vor 1 Min schrieb Nagisa Yuki:

Take a look at Korea and also call EU/NA p2w once more.


it is still p2w for individuals in OUR area. (Whatever KR have).

You contrast 2 various areas as well as 2 various gamer kinds.


vor 5 Minuten schrieb Nagisa Yuki:

I assume i have sufficient experience on duty in any kind of sort of method to understand if it"s undoable or otherwise


Believe me. I additionally have adequate experience. I am playing considering that alpha previously. With no breaks and also with no cash invest in equipment. ^ ^


vor 20 Minuten schrieb Nagisa Yuki:

I never ever claimed that was my debate. I simply claimed. Check out Korea as well as call EU/NA p2w once again.


"Take a look at Korea as well as call EU/NA p2w once more." Exactly how it seem to me: ->"consider KR. THAT is P2W not what EU/NA have." Seems like an argument/statement.


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does it matter that much to you to obtain max equipment. Are you that troubled by the; allows matter, regarding 5 individuals are completely maxed tailored reason they such as to sustain this video game with cash? Allows be truthful they require the cash. and also does it harm any one of the various other gamers to not have semi max equipment rather than max? Im speaking about semi max equipment reason there is close to no factor to obtain max equipment it"s ineffective if u"re not simply intending to assist the video game out. imo

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the only point that could take unreasonably lengthy is stired up epic unity rocks. Then i concur. There"s absolutely nothing else that takes" unreasonably long. Like i claimed contrast Korea"s bns and also EU/NA"s bns and also inform me once more that it"s p2w. It"s truly not.


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developing among these expense 512 juwel powders, (omitting the expense of the previous treasures)

one powder expenses 28 gold today, thats 14-15k Gold simply for among these, getting powder is virtually difficult in the normal video game, you can essentially just acquire them for HM coins.

As well as yet i see individuals having 6 of these in their tool.


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vor 16 Minuten schrieb Nagisa Yuki:

does it matter that much to you to obtain max equipment.


I imply: Why should you not wish to accomplish every little thing in a VIDEO GAME? It"s regular. Its a video game as well as no second life and also shouldn"t be a second "job". Imo. ^ ^


vor 16 Minuten schrieb Nagisa Yuki:

Im speaking about semi max equipment reason there is close to no factor to obtain max equipment it"s ineffective if u"re not simply intending to assist the video game out. imo


i recognize your factor however most of gamers wish to attain whatever in a VIDEO GAME. Which reasonable imo.:-RRB-


vor 6 Minuten schrieb Arohk:

And also yet i see individuals having 6 of these in their tool.


Lots of people. As well as almost everybody do not crafted this treasures ... they obtained it from chest. as well as BTW: they have this treasures for PVE AS WELL AS PVP! Absolutly not attainable for most of gamers.

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i do not play pve maintain that in mind. If i do not play much 3 weeks, i make 15k in 2 perhaps. 15k for a Dyad which is not that necesarry. once more. MAX EQUIPMENT IS OPTIONAL. However allows presume u desire it so terribly u"ll waste ur gold on dyads. truthfully i play this video game a long period of time as well as it"s been sufficient to have complete tri treasures. If u desire to invest 15k for like 12 even more ap, once again. u ought to do it. If u dont? u"re still great to go. it"s not such as u can"t do the latest dungeons.

once more time and again. that YOU are not attempting to place initiative right into attempting to make as much gold as u can is not at fault in the video game im sorry.

Clan BG is an excellent way to obtain gold among the very best in fact perhaps attempt it:-RRB- u obtain like 1-1.5 k well worth of moonstone in 2 hrs.

u"re explaining such an unnecesary thing in this video game. BUT AGAIN if somehow its necesarry for u to have it help it. It"s not unreasonable. IDK i never ever checked into prices for treasures however if it"s just 15k im quite shocked i believed it would certainly be extra.